So I have S1 3.3.1 with the VST/AU/ReWire plugin extension installed in order to support the loading of VST's. And it's actually working quite fine. I have several VST's installed and I can use them without problems. The only comment here is that I currently have only instruments installed, no effects, but I don't see this as relevant.
So a couple of days ago during the holidays I bought the Waves Powerpack 9 since it was on sale. Installed it, but nowhere to be found in S1.
After 3 sessions with Waves technical support they state that:

Note that in our supported hosts we mention what we support and not the versions that are not supported.
Since we don't test our plug-ins on this plug-in extension, I cannot have any actual way to assist you.
Our default 64 bit-VST 2.4 component (WaveShell-VST 9.6_x64.dll) is automatically installed to: C:Program FilesVSTPlugIns
If your plug-in extension scans this file and the plug-ins are still not working, unfortunately there is nothing we can do.

Now I have to give the Waves guys some kudo's here since they did agree to refund me the for the purchase, but why is this happening in the first place?
Isn't this VST/AU/ReWire extension for S1 supposed to support this? Basically the only other option would have been to upgrade to S1 Professional which should be 100% fully supported by Waves, but this entire situation seems really strange to me.
Why would the Professional version load the VST's any different than the Artist + VST/AU/ReWire extension?

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No one ever had compatibility issues?

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Can't speak specifically to the Waves plug-ins as I don't have them. However I would check and make sure that you have the Waves plug-in location set correctly.
You can add additional paths in Studio One | Options | Locations | VST Plugins
I mention this because your email from Waves says VSTPlugins and I've been burned by that before (my plug-in directory is VST Plugins).
Hope you get it straightened out.

Waves works good for me, at least the loading part. I see them all. I don't recall having to do anything special. The Waves wrapper loads when I first start S1. I always see the little gold WAVES logo pop up and spin for a couple of seconds when i first start S1. Right when S1 says Scanning VST3 support or something like that. Not sure how Artist works with that add on though.

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Since we don't test our plug-ins on this plug-in extension

I think the above is probably a misunderstanding (by the Waves support person I suppose) of what the plugin extension is. It only just allows Studio One to use third party plugins, in effect acting the same as Pro in that regard.
If they tested with S1 Pro, that test is also valid for Artist with the plugin extension... which is just a license to use 3rd party plugins.

Thanks for the replies. Initially I was also thinking it might be configuration issue (i.e. location, or something similar). But if Waves support checked my system remotely I can assume all should be correctly installed.
After that they issues this reply, which I thought was really confusing. And I also do not understand it because it implies a difference between Artist + plugin extension and Pro, which in my opinion does make any sense.
it would be good if someone with Artist could give some feedback, because it makes me wonder about other vendors.

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Dont want to drag this old post up again, but I am still stuck on this one.
The only other clue I have right now is that Reaper (x64) only loads the 32 bit version, as it says this in the plugin names. S1 only loads 64bit stuff (as far as I know) so there still all waves stuff is missing.
I was playing with file paths pointing to the actual locations of the plugins (opposed to the location where the WavesShell is) but it just doesnt go.
Also this Waves logo pupping while the VST3's load as mentioned above is not happening, so I guess the entire thing is not loading -at all-.
Would be nice to figure out, they have some nice stuff. Found a post of a Cubase user that had very similar problems. Some people just remove the 32bit WavesShell file and it works for them. Might be DAW specific.. didnt do much for me.

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Since I see a lot of problems with Win7 x64 I bit the bullet and opted for a full PC reinstall, but with Windows 10 x64 since it seems anyone reporting the problem on different forums had 7 x64 as I did.
Lets see.. Waves Central is installing. Fingers crossed

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Good luck. I was just about to inquire if Waves Central was working?

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Everything works fine! Default install with Waves Central (no probs there btw), and still using the same S1 with VST Extension. So I think this is a Win7 issue.
Allthough I did change one thing: on Win7 I had the users profile data on a different disk. At the moment in Win10 I left it detault (i.e. C:Users). Not sure if that matters.
So FYI for anyone having the same problem.
Case closed.

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Hi all.
I am music enthusiast, and was considering getting Artist version of the the software, unfortunately INABILITY of using VST is just big NO!!! for me.
I have bought IK, IN plugins and bunch of others over the past decade, as you normally do, lol.
However, THE fact that you have to pay an extra!!! for using something which IMHO should be included in that particular version anyway is one big nonsense!
I guess, it is all about the $, and not about the Artists, at least not about those who are able to only afford Studio One 3 Artist.
Studio One 3 Professional is one big whoop bleep, hats off.
however how many of us will be able to reach in to our pockets and pull out $400/£279?
How about other software? and I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL OUT VERSIONS, budget one around $100.
Lets do honest comparison of Studio One 3 Artist vs SONAR vs Cubase Elements 8 vs Reason vs. etc...
I have a question, what is the point of introducing mid range of soft, calling it Artist and than locking your instruments away?
anyway,
regards
JB

I think you answered your own questions. For me, I have tried all the major DAW's for years. About 5 years ago when I tried SO v1.0 I was blown away and the simplicity of workflow. They focused on the artist workflow and simplicity to create good music without having to be a pro engineer.
I'm a professional-self taught hack and I was able to do the impossible relative to creating music. Presonus in my eyes speaks not only to the 'Newbs' but is now in the sites of major recording studios.
Without sounding argumentative, this comes down to supporting a solution that supports you. Try out Artist, if you like the workflow and simplicity. If you like the ease of use and the ability to create without having to feel like you need to be a pro engineer....then why wouldn't you simply save up and buy this product?

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You can always go for the VST and AU and Rewire Support so your Artist can host VST's.
Alternatively, if you don't want to many limits, you can also go for the cheaper Reaper or Tracktion to use your VST's in.
You can only decide what is worth what..

niles wroteYou can always go for the VST and AU and Rewire Support so your Artist can host VST's.
Alternatively, if you don't want to many limits, you can also go for the cheaper Reaper or Tracktion to use your VST's in.
You can only decide what is worth what..

Sure, but I think you missed the point,
well I was asking about ppl opinions,
I think that creating lock for the VST/AU is not what you would normally expect when you are paying $100 for software, isn't it?
I don't understand why to disable those necessary (at least in my case) option and than ask for another $100 to unlock them?
Not cool.
I would preferred if PS put the product together and asked for the price, it's like a add-on in full versions of games on mobile/tablet, well you can play for certain time, when you used it all allowance you can always go to adds-on and get whatever is needed to extend the time for certain fee.
I guess everything will be fine until VST to let say violin would be needed.

dwdrum wroteI think you answered your own questions. For me, I have tried all the major DAW's for years. About 5 years ago when I tried SO v1.0 I was blown away and the simplicity of workflow. They focused on the artist workflow and simplicity to create good music without having to be a pro engineer.
I'm a professional-self taught hack and I was able to do the impossible relative to creating music. Presonus in my eyes speaks not only to the 'Newbs' but is now in the sites of major recording studios.
Without sounding argumentative, this comes down to supporting a solution that supports you. Try out Artist, if you like the workflow and simplicity. If you like the ease of use and the ability to create without having to feel like you need to be a pro engineer....then why wouldn't you simply save up and buy this product?

Sure,
I like how the soft works, user friendly, I like it.
I've noticed that you are using Studio One 3 Professional, your argument is coming from totally different angle. I don't know how PS supporting artists by limiting IMHO access to VST, I think they supporting themselves by charging extra, for something what is available in competitive softs.
You are right about workflow and simplicity, as I stated above it's user friendly. However can we look at comparing Artist as it is without extension/add-on (cause that would be $200) and then have an objective discussion.
Kind regards
JB

Maybe they should set the price for Artist at $180.00, but give a discount of $80 if you only use the native plugins.

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I agree with the OP on this one. Studio One is pretty much the only DAW that doesn't have 3rd party plugin support with their entry level software. Here's a quote from me over a year ago when I was considering different DAWs.

miked7 wrote...I'm new to DAWs and have been running the Studio One Professional Demo and I just didn't realize about the 3rd party plug-ins until my Demo ran out. ...(Sonar) supports my plug-ins which are already purchased, Reaper supports them, and Traction 6 supports them, and (I think, but not positive) Mixcraft 7 supports them - all at the entry level purchase price. So why doesn't Studio One? ...
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Yes, Mixcraft also supports 3rd party plug-ins with their entry level DAW.

You can add AudioDesk by MOTU and FL Studio to that list as well.
FWIW, if you don't already have one, you could buy a Presonus audio interface (which comes with Artist) and learn the native plugins, which are really good, then wait for a sale down the road and upgrade at a discount.
To answer the question in the title of the thread - yes! Absolutely! Studio One rocks!

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